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Non-refrigerated Probiotics

Dr Atkins(in his book New Diet Revolution page 336) specifies probiotic preparations that do not need to be refrigerated are preferable. He says the best products are sold in dark glass or plastic light-screening containers.
Is anyone aware of why he recommends "non-refrigerated"..... is it just for convenience(e.g. work, travel) or are there other good reasons?
Also what "non-refrigerated" probiotic brands have people found best to use?

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Anyone out there who can help...... please?

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bumping this in case anyone may be able to assist

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one last bump/try

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I wish I could give you a fantastic detailed answer, but I can only tell you what I have recently learned. I am a nurse at a retirement home and several of our residents have begun using Probiotics for recurrent bladder/yeast infections which is SO common with the older population, over the last several months. What I can tell you is how we have been told to use this herbal remedy. Everyone using Probiotics starts out using Acidophilus for 30 days, three times daily. Now this needs to be refrigerated in order to keep the live bacteria active. Acidophilus being the most expensive (about $28 a bottle). Everyone then goes to a daily maintenance tab, using a less concentrated quality (and cheaper) Probiotic (like Jamieson brand) which doesn't need to be refrigerated. I *think* that the only difference may be the concentration of refrigerated Probiotics is higher to clear up infections and the the non-refrigerated provideds the proper amount of flora to prevent them from returning. And of course, non-refrigerated is more convienient. I can tell you that the people who use Probiotics regularly have not had a return of bladder/yeast infections, where they use to be chronic sufferers of them.
I hope some of this garble may have helped.

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Much appreciated Emily.
I'm currently taking 1 capsule per day containing 12.5 billion each of Acidophilus and Bifidobacterium which needs refrigeration. The instructions say 1 per day, or more if recommended by a healthcare professional. I've been doing this for about 40 days and according to the spit test still have a yeast infection. The associated symptoms are improving and I seem to have gotten over a weight-loss stall which I thought the infection may have been causing.
Can you please give me an idea on how long typically your yeast sufferers were taking the probiotics before they cleared their infections?
In the meantime I will seek advice on whether or not to increase my dosage to 2 or 3 per day, and keep asking more questions about the availability and benefits of the non-refrigerable variety.

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Can you please give me an idea on how long typically your yeast sufferers were taking the probiotics before they cleared their infections?
In the meantime I will seek advice on whether or not to increase my dosage to 2 or 3 per day, and keep asking more questions about the availability and benefits of the non-refrigerable variety. Frankly, I think taking probiotics alone may not be enough to resolve some systemic yeast infections. You may need to also adjust your diet away from sweet stuff. Yeast does best in an environment loaded with sugar/sugar analogs (in fact, cravings for sweets can often be laid at the door of yeast). Here's some more info: Candida albicans, a yeast, ferments sugars to alcohol, and therefore thrives in a sugar-rich environment. It is for this reason that dietary strategies are designed toward reducing sugar and available simple carbohydrate intake and increasing fiber, complex carbohydrate and protein. Foods contaminated with yeast such as fermented fruit or fruit drinks or moldy foods should be avoided, as should yeast-containing foods. more- To clear an infection, you need to first starve the organism of the foods it thrives on. Candida likes moulds so avoid mushrooms, fermented drinks (including alcohol) and foods that may carry mould. Cut out sugar-rich soft drinks and fruit juices, moderate your intake of tea, coffee and diet drinks and aim for eight glasses of pure water a day to help flush out the bowel.
After a few weeks on your candida-elimination diet, you will then be ready to introduce herbs to boost the immune system and help clear the infection from the gut. Garlic, for example, is a potent antifungal agent with a strong anti-yeast action. It inhibits the growth of candida and has also been shown to help prevent recurring infections when taken over the long-term. If you cannot face the idea of chewing a clove a day, look for odourless capsules that provide 900mg per day of the active ingredient (allicin). Alternatively, take a fast-acting tincture. Aloe vera juice will also heal the damaged gut lining. Drink a quarter of a glass, twice a day.
The big anti-yeast herb is a little known one called Pau d’arco by the Portuguese, or lapacho by the Spanish-speaking population. It comes from South America where it is prized as a cure-all herb and is taken from the inner bark a native evergreen tree. When taken as a tea, it can help kill off the candida overgrowth but it is a very potent herb and should only be used under the supervision of a qualified health practitioner.
Your final attack to rid the body of a candida overgrowth for good will be to take a supplement to replace the so-called friendly bacteria in the digestive tract that will keep the candida that is present under control. Lots of people have now heard of probiotics but remain uncertain about why they need to take them or which brands to buy.
Foods to avoid: sugar, packaged and processed foods, yeast breads and pastries, mushrooms and truffles, most condiments and sauces, fruits for the first three weeks of your candida-elimination diet and re-heated leftovers. hope this helps, ;)

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I was also wondering why Atkins prefers non-refrigerated pro-biotics, since most tested brands didn't have live bacteria by the time they got to the consumer. Who knows how long they sit on the shelf.... However,
I first tried refrigerated ones which I ordered through CVS and it didn't make a difference. Then I got Culturelle, which doesn't have to be refr. but I keep it in the refr. anyway. Well this one has been causing some die-off symptoms, so I guess this one works better.
I think it depends on what species of bacteria it is. Acidophilus is very vulnerable, so refrigerated ones are preferred, I think. The one I use is LActobacillus GG (rhamnosus) which is tougher and survives better at room temp and through stomach acid. I also heard good things about L. sporagenes.

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Frankly, I think taking probiotics alone may not be enough to resolve some systemic yeast infections. You may need to also adjust your diet away from sweet stuff. Yeast does best in an environment loaded with sugar/sugar analogs (in fact, cravings for sweets can often be laid at the door of yeast). Here's some more info:more- hope this helps, ;) You betcha :agree:
I have a great herbalist/naturopath, so will discuss with him re garlic capsules, aloe vera juice and Pau d’arco. I am getting my diet under control(thanks to Dr Atkins) so will now use herbs together the probiotics.
Thank you very much and congratulations on your most impressive results :thup:

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I first tried refrigerated ones which I ordered through CVS and it didn't make a difference. Then I got Culturelle, which doesn't have to be refr. but I keep it in the refr. anyway. Well this one has been causing some die-off symptoms, so I guess this one works better. Thank you Tunkany.
What sort of die-off symptoms should I be looking our for?

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It's different for everybody. I have eczema so it got a lot worse! I was also tired and my legs were sore. I just felt awful, like when you're going to come down with the flu, plus the rash. It might be different for you. Some people get yeast infections and thrush, some have stomach symptoms.
I do not recommend garlic capsules as they don't have the potency of the real garlic. Raw garlic kills candida but don't take it for more than 2 weeks in a row because the allicin in it is a potent poison. 2-3 crushed cloves a day is fine. Don't eat it on an empty stomach because when I did that I got sick, I felt like throwing up. You can just chew it if you like it or swallow the cruched cloves with a spoonful of water.
I didn't try bark tea but if you have an intestinal problem it might just aggrevate it. I recommend virgin coconut oil. Others recommend oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract, I haven't tried these though. Or you can do Nyastin but the fungus can be resistant to it.

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I recommend virgin coconut oil.
Thanks for posting this! I thought I had read somewhere about CO being good for Candida. I've been doing an anti-Candida diet since 01/01/06 but have been confused by some of the literature. I bought the books by Crook and Trowbridge (The Yeast System). But Trowbridge doesn't recommended coconut oil (and all coconut products) until the last phase so I was worried to use it. Not now!
Others recommend oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract, I haven't tried these though.
Just listing my experience for jumpin' to read...
I have used both along with the Pau D'Arco tea. I rotated a week of each. I'm not sure if I have experienced die-off or not?? The first 2-3 days I was zapped of energy (that's when I was drinking the tea), but then I was fine until a few days ago, but I suspect that was because of staying so low on carbs. I added about a cup of pumpkin to my menu and I'm fine?? I did have this strange swelling in my right hand that subsided before I did the anti-Candida diet, and now it's back??
The grapefruit seed extract is inexpensive. I bought a 2 ounce bottle for 6 dollars. I bought the oil of oregano in capsule form and didn't notice a reaction from it, except the burping up oregano the first day! :lol: The Pau D'Arco tasted a bit like root beer to me and I had no problems with it.
Good luck!

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www.breakingtheviciouscycle.org FAQ has a lot of useful info on the different foods and supplemets. The lady who came up with the diet for IBD, Ulcerative colitis, candida etc. gut problems, was a biochemist, she cured her own daughter of UC, I'm pretty sure she knows what she is talking about (she died last September). That's where I learned about Pau D'Arco, for example.

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Also what "non-refrigerated" probiotic brands have people found best to use?
I use and recommend this one that needs NO refrigeration..
NOW® Gr8-Dophilus is a combination of 8 different species of beneficial bacteria designed to support gastrointestinal health and immune system function. FOS is also included in this product to assist healthy growth of acidophilus and bifidus organisms. Because this capsule is enteric coated, NOW® Gr-8 Dophilus delivers its microflora directly to the intestine bypassing the harsh acidic conditions of the stomach. NOW® Gr-8-Dophilus is stable at room temperature, requiring no refrigeration.
http://www.dextersportscience.com/p...s/now/gr8d.html
Nikki

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As far as I know we should stay away from FOS containing probiotics.


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